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If you don't believe in progress, stop pretending you care about working people.

If you believe in Progress, you should get on with the job of building a better world. It's like the wingers who are voting for Bush because they think Clinton lied. What confounds me is that these people think their staunch defense of the established order to be a profoundly liberal and leftist position. It's almost automatic: as soon as you find a technology that matters, there's a professor at your elbow telling you that technology doesn't matter and besides it will cause untold harm in the hands of the American military-entertainment complex. Some dismiss this belief as naive American technodeterminism. Mitchell, an architect and authority on the intersection between the digital and the built environment, believes technology matters. In TEKKA 6, George Landow reads William Mitchell's Me++: Mitchell, a justly famous proponent of new technologies of communication, shares a good deal with the Victorian sages - Carlyle, Ruskin, and Arnold - and the Old Testament prophets who served as their inspiration. Still, there might be some breakage here - especially as I'm using a radically experimental Tinderbox build right now.

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Tinderbox 2.3 has lots of new code for dealing with files - work that was motivated by Tinderbox for Windows but that also makes it much easier to move Tinderbox documents to a new machine. I'm a firm believer in lots of screens and lots of CPUs, but four is too many I can't keep four machines occupied productively. Incidentally, for the last month I've had four systems side-by-side on my desk: the two Macintosh laptops, the Windows laptop, and my desktop G5. But Tinderbox Weekend is coming up in a week's time, and two transcontinental trips in four days is a very good reason to start using the smaller and lighter new laptop. I ordered the new laptop earlier this year when Prosperity's hard disk failed, but I've been procrastinating over making the move. I'm making the transition from Prosperity, the TinderBook, to a new 12' Powerbook.

Tinctoris: 'I finally got around to fiddling with some of the new Tinderbox eyecandy it was hidden deep down in the interface.

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It's an enormous asset and valuable resource for Mac users.' I've corresponded with Ted on outliners for the Mac, and the work he's producing for ATPM in the About This Particular Outliner series is really remarkable. Ted Goranson's Deep Tinderbox is an exhaustive look at the application, and worth your time if you're interested in Tinderbox. I'm not sure it'll percolate to the top anytime soon, but the impetus is growing with each update.

Dave Rogers: ' I keep meaning to delve more deeply into the things Tinderbox can do apart from maintaining this weblog.

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Instead of turning to a manual and looking passively for ideas, expecting Eastgate to te l me what to do with the program, I simply try and do everything in Tinderbox.' I’ve been a big champion of Tinderbox for a couple of years and I learn something new about it regularly. I think you have to throw yourself into the application and live with it over a long time. This makes “training manuals” problematic.

Grey Notebook: 'The program is so adaptable that it resists definition or classification.

Reviews and responses to Ted Goranson's discussion of Tinderbox: